1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,360 This program is rated PG and may contain mature subject matter. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Viewer discretion is advised. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Cut him out, Altitude. 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:15,640 We spent the better part of the day running these magnetometry and LIDAR surveys. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,080 Here is the magnetic data of the homestead 2. 6 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:20,080 Oh. 7 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:21,080 Here's the triangle. 8 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:22,080 Oh, look at that. 9 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:26,040 I feel like we have to dig to get to the bottom of Skinwalker Ranch. 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Hey, guys. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,680 This thing is hopping all over the place. 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,680 The north has been shipped. 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,000 It's pointing towards where they're drilling. 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,600 The drill's having some kind of effect on the magnetic field of the ranch. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,600 Look at that. 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,600 That is some dark stuff. 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,600 I don't know what to make of that. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,640 I got the data back from the analysis on that interesting black stuff. 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Take a look. 20 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,680 That's all the stuff you would need to put together modern-day electronics. 21 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Oh. 22 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,480 There is a ranch in northern Utah. 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:05,080 It is considered the epicenter of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth. 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Animal mutilations, bizarre UFO sightings, and unusual energies that have proven harmful 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,600 to humans. 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:20,080 For 20 years, the federal government tried to find answers and failed. 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Now, a new team of dedicated scientists, researchers, and experts has taken over. 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:38,360 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal the secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,640 All right. 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:47,080 We got stuff crammed up in here. 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Well, I guess we set up over close to the doorway. 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Thomas, why don't you go ahead and go in there to where the wellhead is and get a clean spot 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,280 and hook the wire to it. 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Okay. 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,360 After more than two months of new investigations on Skinwalker Ranch, we're finally starting 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,160 to make possible connections that might explain some of the bizarre phenomena that keep happening 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,160 here. 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Oh. 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Look at that. 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:21,640 The highly conductive black material we obtained last week, about 100 feet below the triangle 41 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:27,360 area where we've also seen a bunch of weird things, including UFOs, was located right 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,920 where a recent magnetometry survey revealed a huge anomaly. 43 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:37,280 Well that same survey showed another similar feature right here beneath Homestead 2. 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,400 We want to know if there could be some kind of connection between the high strangeness 45 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,080 we've seen at both of these sites. 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,440 So Eric and I have devised an experiment to actually measure the conductivity where we're 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:55,280 going to use the well pipe and a conductor grounding rod separated by about 50 or 60 48 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,280 feet. 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,240 And we're going to connect those to a wire through a multimeter that will measure voltage 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:08,120 and current and then that to a 12 volt car battery. 51 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Now the key here is that the circuit is open. 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,320 The only thing connecting them is dirt. 53 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,840 We got that end connected to the ground wire and that end is connected to the well. 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:24,600 So if the dirt is highly conductive, then current should flow out of the battery through 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,440 our measuring device, through the wire to the copper rod, through the dirt, up through 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,000 the well, back through the wire and back to the battery. 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,440 If that's the case, that'll tell us how conductive the dirt is. 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,080 We do measure a lot of conductivity in the soil out here. 59 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Do you think that would explain some of the crazy feelings people have, some of the instrumentation 60 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,880 going haywire, stuff like that? 61 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Maybe, but here's the thing that's missing, the battery. 62 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,080 Right. 63 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,960 We'd have to figure out where the battery's coming from. 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Yeah, we don't know what would energize that phenomenon. 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,280 There's still a power source somewhere that we hadn't figured out, but we're hoping this 66 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,080 will help us maybe get to that. 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,120 I've wondered for a long time whether there might be some kind of underground energy source. 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Some people have expressed the belief that aliens are somehow involved and we may be 69 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:23,360 onto why a conjectured alien civilization or some ancient Earth civilization may have 70 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,640 used the area as a power storage. 71 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Are we ready to do this? 72 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,640 I say we are. 73 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Is that the other end hooked up? 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Yep. 75 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,640 All right, Eric. 76 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Hook it up. 77 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,000 There, look at that. 78 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Wow. 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Wow, significant. 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,040 That's almost a third of an amp. 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,280 I was not expecting that. 82 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:50,560 I was expecting it to be barely one little digit move. 83 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Point three amps is flowing through 50, 60 feet of soil here underneath the Skinwalker 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,160 Ranch at Homestead 2. 85 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,400 I've never seen anything like that. 86 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,400 There should be nothing. 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,720 It should be billions. 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,240 There should be even trillions of an amp. 89 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,720 It's like we have a transmission line, like a power line, running underground, but everywhere 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,720 underground. 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,720 And so what does that mean? 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,640 It means if there's a power source or something that stimulates it, then electrical current 93 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,640 is flowing all everywhere under the ground and everywhere electric current flows, a magnetic 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,520 field is created. 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,440 All right. 96 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Seeing how big that current is makes me think I might be able to power a flashlight off. 97 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Oh, yeah. 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 You had it. 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,240 I found it back here in the Pelican case. 100 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,400 It should be pretty easy to test this out. 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 So what I want to do is break you up right there. 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,280 What we're doing, well, that was interesting. 103 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:43,720 So that's connected directly to the power. 104 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Yeah, this should be because you just disconnected the power. 105 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,600 It was this. 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,600 Wait, what? 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,080 That just went off? 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Yeah, just as you disconnected that, this electricity. 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,720 Is that off the lightning mirror? 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Yeah, now that's interesting. 111 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,680 That is very interesting. 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,520 When we took the battery out of the circuit, the lightning detector would go off. 113 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,520 I don't think I have a good understanding of why that happened. 114 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Do it again. 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,000 What the hell? 116 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Wow. 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 What's that? 118 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,080 You're conducting energy up through the ground. 119 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,040 It's somehow triggering that thing. 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,040 What? 121 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,040 That's repeatable. 122 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,280 Look at that. 123 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:29,480 For Eric's lightning detector to go off during this experiment, not only verify that the 124 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:36,640 ground here at Homestead 2 is strangely conductive just like the triangle area, but also that 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,320 we may have stimulated some kind of phenomenon. 126 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:46,360 Or as Thomas Winterton always says, a response from the ranch. 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,960 There's enough current flowing through the ground off of a 12-volt battery to set the 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,960 lightning detector. 129 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,960 That's right. 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:52,960 This is crazy. 131 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,520 I tell you what we're seeing here is a phenomena that I don't think a lot of people have a 132 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,680 good grasp on. 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:04,880 I think this whole area is acting like a power supply. 134 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,640 And it's storing up power. 135 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,560 And then we're suddenly letting it go when we disconnect from the car battery. 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,880 And as it's draining out quickly, it looks like a lightning bolt. 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,600 It's like an energy reservoir here. 138 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,640 Where was the power coming from that went into the earth that created that lightning 139 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,240 discharge that made Eric's meter go off? 140 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,640 I have no idea about that. 141 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,680 But maybe the same conductive material we found beneath the triangle area is also here 142 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,360 under Homestead 2. 143 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,480 And if so, maybe this is leading us down a path on how to find the answer. 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,480 I want to see if the flashlight works. 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Look it up. 146 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,160 I have a feeling it's going to work. 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,600 With that much energy, we're still getting more than a quarter of an amp. 148 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Well, let's see what we get when we hook this up. 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Oh, it hardly seems possible. 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,960 We've got this giant resistor or whatever the ground is, a 50-something feet that we're 151 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,000 running electricity through. 152 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,160 We're using the earth as part of our electrical circuit grid. 153 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,680 I was really surprised to see how much current can actually flow through the ground here. 154 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,680 That's pretty crazy. 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,120 It shows us that this soil really is highly conductive and can even possibly store energy. 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,120 Is it possible there could be a power source somewhere under the ranch or above the ranch 157 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,600 somehow connecting? 158 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Maybe that's why Skinwalker Ranch is the area of so many UFO sightings and so many of these 159 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,960 events. 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Maybe. 161 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Thomas' question about UFO phenomena seemed a lot less far-fetched to me today than when 162 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,080 I first came to the ranch last year. 163 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,840 I don't know if the cause of these energy spikes is from something below the ground or from 164 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,760 something high above like we've also seen at the triangle area. 165 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,560 So I thought what we needed next was to conduct an even more aggressive experiment. 166 00:08:53,560 --> 00:09:01,280 We just saw when we put current into the ground that we're seeing phenomena, right? 167 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,400 I think we've got to put power into ground to see if we can stimulate whatever this phenomena 168 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:11,000 is and see if that phenomena shows itself. 169 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,960 So how do you get enough power into the ground? 170 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:22,240 I think we install a Tesla coil and we turn that thing on high and maybe we can scan it 171 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,000 across the frequencies that it works on and it'll resonate with the surface and charge 172 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,840 it up and make it start ringing or do whatever it does. 173 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Well, you're talking about something on a much bigger scale. 174 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Much larger scale. 175 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,400 Well, I think we should call Brandon and talk to him about it. 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,400 Heck yeah. 177 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:43,600 I want to bring the biggest Tesla coil I can, plug it into the ground and we might can find 178 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,360 where the power source is. 179 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Interdrive. 180 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,360 Oh, wow. 181 00:09:47,360 --> 00:10:01,920 There's no way that coil can produce that frequency. 182 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,120 We've invited Brandon out here on the ranch again to discuss the results of the soil 183 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,520 conductivity test. 184 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:13,240 And we had electrical current transferring through the ground for long ranges, which is 185 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,240 really, really strange. 186 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Good to have you back. 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,440 So we feel like it's time to discuss with Brandon the game plan we've put together. 188 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,440 Hey guys. 189 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,280 And get his blessing. 190 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,800 This is his ranch and I want to make sure he knows what we're doing and what the possible 191 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 ramifications of what we do are. 192 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,040 So what do you have to show me? 193 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,560 We are discussing setting up a very different kind of experiment. 194 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:39,840 It's something that Travis has suggested. 195 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Well, so we did, we've done some experiments down at Homestead 2 where we created a circuit 196 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:54,800 with a 12 volt car battery and put a flashlight in the loop and part of the circuit was 70 197 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,680 something feet of dirt. 198 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:58,680 Okay. 199 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:05,520 And the flashlight would still come on with dirt as being one of the wires in the circuit. 200 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,440 Wow. 201 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,280 For you to be able to power a light bulb just by virtue of plugging it into the land, that's 202 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,280 extraordinary. 203 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,400 It is extraordinary. 204 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:24,680 And that led me to think about how the dirt in the ranch is highly conductive and might 205 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:27,760 be working like a battery. 206 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:34,200 The ranch itself could be storing energy because we actually disconnected the battery, 207 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,200 right? 208 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Yup. 209 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,200 That was the remarkable part. 210 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,200 Why? 211 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Why would the land be conducting electricity? 212 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:49,120 It's got something in it that's layers of conduct, more conductive soil than normal 213 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,120 soil. 214 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Just like the materials that we found in this sample underneath the ranch out of the triangle. 215 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,360 And if you got a conductive layer and then a non-conductive layer, then another one and 216 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:05,640 so on, that's the way a battery looks if you take a battery apart and look in it. 217 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:11,160 And the ground itself might be acting like a battery and it might be charging just due 218 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,600 to weather moving over the area. 219 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,760 Is this normal? 220 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Is this something that you see typically in other locations? 221 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,400 No. 222 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,080 It's one thing for the soil to be conductive. 223 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,360 That's another thing for it to have the kind of structure that Travis was talking about, 224 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,920 where you actually, by the arrangement of those conductors, can store energy. 225 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Right. 226 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Well, and power a light bulb just through our land. 227 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,920 It's very similar to the things that Nikola Tesla wanted to do to send power around the 228 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,280 world through the earth. 229 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,440 Nikola Tesla was one of the most brilliant scientists and inventors regarding electricity 230 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,440 to ever live. 231 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,800 And as early as 1899, he began working on an experiment in Colorado, attempting to figure 232 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:00,480 out how to provide power from America to Europe using large energy transmitters he invented 233 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,160 called Tesla coils, which had to be connected to the soil. 234 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Although he was able to send energy underground for miles, the ultimate goal of the experiment 235 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,520 was never achieved. 236 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,760 However, I believe that if he'd been able to run his experiment through the kind of 237 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:22,640 weirdly conductive soil that's here on Skinwalker Ranch, it just might have worked. 238 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:29,320 I think that there's something specific about this area that's so highly conductive. 239 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Wow. 240 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,160 You start thinking about this, maybe it would make more sense as to why it could cause phenomena 241 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,160 to take place, and then what do they say? 242 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Bad things happen when you dig. 243 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,960 You stick something in the ground, it'll trigger the thing to go off. 244 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Eric's lightning meter goes off all the time, especially when we're digging. 245 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,160 It could be charging and discharging. 246 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Now, if you wanted to get really crazy with it, you know, one of the more exotic explanations 247 00:13:54,680 --> 00:14:00,280 could be like, well, if you were in advanced civilization, you would say the earth is 248 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,480 a battery, where's the best place to go pre-charger cable in? 249 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Like a charging station. 250 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Yeah. 251 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Just like electric car charging stations, but this is happening naturally. 252 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,920 Wow. 253 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,720 It could be that what we're seeing is part of the explanation for things witnessed by 254 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:23,720 folks who have lived here or visited the property, including UFOs, UAPs, and even the orb phenomenology 255 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,840 said to frequent the ranch. 256 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:32,840 You're speaking now to a very real, tangible phenomenon that you've discovered here on 257 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,840 the property. 258 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Yeah. 259 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:43,360 The history of this property is rich with high strangeness, with all sorts of reports 260 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,360 and anomalies. 261 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Shortly after I acquired the ranch, I began to see many of the same things that people 262 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,520 have reported going back not only decades, but generations. 263 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,080 We've seen strange luminescent phenomena. 264 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,280 We've seen strange lights. 265 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,040 We've seen, you know, sections of the mesa illuminated. 266 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,720 This is the Shermans who bought the property in the early 90s. 267 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Witnessed with their own eyes, UFO activity over the property. 268 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,240 We have surprisingly had the same experiences. 269 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,240 I can't deny it. 270 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,960 I've seen it with my own eyes, with multiple witnesses. 271 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,400 I'd like to hear, you know, what you'd propose the best course or path may be. 272 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,400 So what I would like to do, Brandon, is I would like to call a colleague of mine and 273 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:38,680 find the biggest Tesla coil that I can find available and energize the ranch as powerfully 274 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:44,920 as I can, number one, to see how far away we can transmit energy across the ranch. 275 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,760 And also, maybe it would stimulate something. 276 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:56,560 You know, I'm most worried that you may unleash power that you're not prepared to handle 277 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,280 here on the property. 278 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,160 So I want to make sure that we take proper precautions. 279 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,160 It's definitely something we have to be very cautious about, but Travis knows what he's 280 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,120 doing in this regard, and I don't think any of us are going to run willy-nilly around 281 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,600 here and take undue risks. 282 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:19,440 So if we reach a point where we're seeing a phenomena, then that'll be where we realize, 283 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,200 okay, we need to back off and observe and understand this before we really kick it too 284 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,200 hard. 285 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Well, I think it's both exciting and terrifying at the same time. 286 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:36,360 And I hope you're all really prepared for the potential risks associated with that. 287 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,800 I trust these three guys completely. 288 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,760 And I know these two will carry it out the way that it should be carried out. 289 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,000 And I know that if something goes wrong, they'll keep us safe. 290 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Okay. 291 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Travis, how soon can you do these experiments? 292 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Well, I've talked to a colleague of mine, and he's ready to bring some equipment out, 293 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,480 like now. 294 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,040 I mean, any day now. 295 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:05,040 So right now we're looking at the triangle area to do the experiment. 296 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Now that we've determined that the soil at Homestead 2 is just as strangely conductive 297 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,200 as it is at the triangle area, I want to conduct the Tesla coil experiment in the triangle 298 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,760 for two reasons. 299 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,320 One, it doesn't have the tree cover, so it's not as much of a fire hazard. 300 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:25,520 And two, I'm really curious to see if sending a lot of electricity into the ground might 301 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,960 stimulate phenomena either between or at both sides. 302 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Maybe this experiment could finally help reveal just exactly what it is we're dealing 303 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,160 with on Skinwalker Ranch. 304 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,880 Well, I'm very interested to see what kind of results come from this experiment. 305 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,800 So proceed accordingly and be careful. 306 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Now, one thing we need to keep in mind here is the danger. 307 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,960 We're running this coil at a greater power than I've ever ran it before. 308 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,960 I don't know what's going to happen here. 309 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,960 All right, let's fire this thing up, Cameron. 310 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Okay, coming up. 311 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,960 What's up, Cameron? 312 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Good to see you, man. 313 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,960 How you doing, brother? 314 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,640 Good to see you, man. 315 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,640 Cameron Prince is a good buddy of mine who's also an engineer and an expert on Nikola 316 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,640 Tesla. 317 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,240 So I arranged with him to bring some different sized Tesla coils out to the ranch so we 318 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:29,040 could see what would happen if we shot a lot of electricity into the ground at the triangle 319 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,040 area. 320 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Now, if the ranch really does respond to being poked, I wanted to see what might show up 321 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,600 if we zapped it. 322 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,880 One of the things we've measured are weird radio and microwave signals that we can't 323 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,880 source. 324 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,760 And they bounce around, and we've discovered an anomaly in the soil here that we think 325 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,280 that we can stimulate with a Tesla coil. 326 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,280 Wow. 327 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,920 It's just feeling like energy of some sort. 328 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,880 Yep, and it's really unusual. 329 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,640 I mean, that's the only way I could explain it, right? 330 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,480 Yeah, and I'm excited you're here because maybe this will help ease that confusion, 331 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,000 and we'll be able to get some answers. 332 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Sounds really cool. 333 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,720 All right, well, show us what you brought, man. 334 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,400 Okay, I'd love to see it. 335 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,840 I know these guys can't wait to see it. 336 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,640 So I brought four coils, two small ones that are actually solid state, and we can vary 337 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,760 the frequency there. 338 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,880 So this anomaly is sensitive to certain frequencies or pulse rate. 339 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,320 We've got a lot of versatility to do different things. 340 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,320 The large coil, it stands about nine foot tall, and that's what you see here with the 341 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,920 big donut there. 342 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,480 That sits on top, and that's what collects that energy until it breaks out, and we start 343 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,480 hitting the ground with it. 344 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,280 So we're going to dump a big bucket of energy on the ground. 345 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:46,600 That's exactly what we're going to do, not just on the ground, in and through the ground. 346 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,560 Tesla was the creator of AC Current, which we use today, but he wanted to do away with 347 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,520 the wires and actually transmit that energy wirelessly. 348 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,240 So the Tesla coil was created with that in mind. 349 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:05,760 So a Tesla coil is an air core transformer that takes AC voltage and boost it up to a 350 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,040 very high degree in order to create the lightning. 351 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,840 So what I'd like to do, guys, I think we should load up, cross through the triangle, and head 352 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,840 that way. 353 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Sounds good. 354 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,840 All right, man. 355 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Perfect. 356 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Bringing a Tesla coil on the ranch is a culmination of hundreds of hours of experiments and research 357 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,720 and finding magnetic anomalies in the ground. 358 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000 So this is what we call a triangle. 359 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,920 The hope is by pumping all this energy into the ground. 360 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:44,160 One, we're going to learn more about the conductive properties here at the ranch, and two, maybe 361 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,520 we'll wake something up. 362 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,200 Well, so, Cameron, why don't you just pull up down there by that yellow flag and we'll 363 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,520 start staging the equipment at? 364 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Sounds good. 365 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,520 All right, man. 366 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,520 It's like every other experiment that we perform. 367 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,720 We're not sure what to expect. 368 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,240 Maybe when we turn the device on, we'll see something in the sky above, or maybe we'll 369 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,240 measure something in the ground below. 370 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,400 It'll work. 371 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,180 We're going to be putting so much power through the ground. 372 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:13,980 If there's something underground, it's bound to feed back into that. 373 00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:16,980 And we might see something occur. 374 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:18,820 So we might be interacting with something. 375 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:19,820 That's what I'm hoping. 376 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:20,820 OK. 377 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:25,500 Because so many weird things tend to happen at night on the ranch, like the strange lights 378 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:30,380 we've seen on the Mesa or the reports and evidence that we've experienced ourselves 379 00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:32,300 with possible portals. 380 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:35,460 We thought it would be best to start our experiments once the sun went down. 381 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:46,420 All right, Cameron, I think we've got all of our instruments set up. 382 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:50,140 This is the audio spectrum that Eric's looking at on this screen. 383 00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:54,300 We've got a different frequency antenna set up here on a spectrum analyzer. 384 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:58,780 So we're going to be looking at all these different pieces of data while we're running 385 00:21:58,780 --> 00:21:59,780 this thing. 386 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:03,020 We'll start kind of using that as a measurement of the conductivity of the soil. 387 00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:04,020 OK. 388 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:06,100 One thing we need to keep in mind here is the danger. 389 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:10,100 We're running this coil at a greater power than I've ever ran it before. 390 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:14,260 We were talking about a more conductive ground than I've ever worked with before. 391 00:22:14,260 --> 00:22:15,860 So we've got to keep safety in mind. 392 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:17,620 I don't know what's going to happen here. 393 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:18,620 Yeah. 394 00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:22,540 Pumping this much electricity into the ground and into the atmosphere, who knows what it 395 00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:24,380 could possibly stimulate? 396 00:22:24,380 --> 00:22:26,300 Hopefully we're prepared for whatever happens. 397 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:27,660 If something happens, we don't know. 398 00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:29,980 And if a portal opens up over there, I'm going in. 399 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:35,020 So let's fire up the Tesla coil and see what happens. 400 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:40,060 Because of the potential danger of this experiment, we decided to use the smaller coils first. 401 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:45,100 Now, I also stuck some fluorescent light bulbs in the ground and handed some out to the 402 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,100 team. 403 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:50,860 Since our bodies are natural conductors of electricity, if we saw the bulbs light up, 404 00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:54,860 it would mean that the ground was conducting current and it would verify the experiment 405 00:22:54,860 --> 00:22:55,860 was working. 406 00:22:55,860 --> 00:23:00,020 Then it would just be a matter of seeing what other things might happen. 407 00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:01,020 All right. 408 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:02,540 Let's fire this thing up, Cameron. 409 00:23:02,540 --> 00:23:03,540 OK. 410 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:04,540 Coming up. 411 00:23:04,540 --> 00:23:05,540 There you go. 412 00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:12,540 Oh, that's pretty bright right there. 413 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:14,540 Over there. 414 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:16,540 That one lighting up. 415 00:23:16,540 --> 00:23:17,540 It is lighting up. 416 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:18,540 Yeah, you can see it. 417 00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:19,540 You can see it light up. 418 00:23:19,540 --> 00:23:20,540 Hey Travis. 419 00:23:20,540 --> 00:23:21,540 Yeah. 420 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:23,540 The whole night's floor is going up and down. 421 00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:24,540 All right. 422 00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:25,540 Bring it down. 423 00:23:25,540 --> 00:23:26,540 Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. 424 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:27,540 What is that? 425 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:28,540 Right there. 426 00:23:28,540 --> 00:23:29,540 Look at how fast this goes. 427 00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:30,540 And then look at it streak off. 428 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:31,540 Look at it streak off. 429 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:32,540 Right on. 430 00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:33,540 That is crazy. 431 00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:34,540 There you go. 432 00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:35,540 Over there. 433 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:36,540 That one. 434 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:55,940 Cameron brought two smaller Tesla coils that he can control with a solid state box that 435 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,540 changes the tone and frequency of them. 436 00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:00,540 Oh, it is working. 437 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:01,540 It is working. 438 00:24:01,540 --> 00:24:09,020 Hopefully we can trigger whatever this phenomena is by adjusting the output of the energy that 439 00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:10,540 we're sending out. 440 00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:15,540 Woo, you can smell that ozone. 441 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:16,540 That's it. 442 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,540 All right. 443 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:21,540 I'll go back and see what Eric saw on the instruments. 444 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:22,540 OK. 445 00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:24,540 All right, Eric, what did you see? 446 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:27,540 If you want, you can take a look at this last screen capture. 447 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:28,540 Nice ring. 448 00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:29,540 Oh, wow. 449 00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:33,540 Well, that smacked in the bell, but the bell ring back. 450 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:36,540 I didn't see anything that I would call a response. 451 00:24:36,540 --> 00:24:41,060 Eric's detecting devices only registered energy levels that appeared to have been produced 452 00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:44,980 by the electricity coming out of the small Tesla coils. 453 00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:48,540 So the only thing I could think of to do next was to up the ante. 454 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:49,540 Maybe we need more power. 455 00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:50,540 More power. 456 00:24:50,540 --> 00:24:51,540 OK. 457 00:24:51,540 --> 00:24:54,900 Well, Cameron, I can't wait to see what happens to that bigger coil when you pump it with 458 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:56,940 more power than you've ever done. 459 00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:59,940 So let's fire up the Tesla coil and see what happens. 460 00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:01,740 Let's rock and roll. 461 00:25:01,740 --> 00:25:06,940 It's possible we need an even bigger Tesla coil firing at maximum power, and then hopefully 462 00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:11,860 if there's a bigger power supply here somewhere, it might stimulate it. 463 00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:15,980 It might trigger some kind of communication signal or a response. 464 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:18,940 And maybe it's something we can detect and locate. 465 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:21,340 All right, I'm bringing up the big coil. 466 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:22,340 Everybody stand back. 467 00:25:22,340 --> 00:25:23,340 All right. 468 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:24,340 OK. 469 00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:26,340 Here it goes. 470 00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:27,740 Ready? 471 00:25:27,740 --> 00:25:28,740 Yeah. 472 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:30,740 In it goes. 473 00:25:36,740 --> 00:25:37,740 Whoa, look at that. 474 00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,740 Oh, that's cool. 475 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:41,740 Oh, wow. 476 00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:43,740 Check it out. 477 00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:47,740 Oh, yeah! 478 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,740 Yeah, what are we seeing here? 479 00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:53,740 The whole floor raises like that. 480 00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:55,740 When did you notice that first? 481 00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:58,140 What are you doing about halfway through? 482 00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:03,140 As I was watching the different spectrum analyzers and some of this different equipment, I started 483 00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:06,140 seeing these strange signals coming back. 484 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:07,140 Hey, Travis! 485 00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:08,140 Yeah! 486 00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:11,140 The whole noise floor is going up and down. 487 00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:12,140 OK. 488 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:15,140 All right, bring it down, Cameron. 489 00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:22,140 So what we're seeing over here is that the noise floor is continuing to hop up and down. 490 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:23,140 Really? 491 00:26:23,140 --> 00:26:24,140 Yeah. 492 00:26:24,140 --> 00:26:25,140 Check it out. 493 00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:26,540 Wow, look at that. 494 00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:27,540 That just happened. 495 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:28,540 Whoa! 496 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:29,540 That was the first time that happened. 497 00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:32,540 That was out at 400 kilohertz. 498 00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:35,540 So this entire thing's just been bouncing and still going. 499 00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:36,540 Yeah, it's crazy. 500 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:37,540 Look at that. 501 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:41,340 The noise floor refers to all the normal energy interference you'd expect to see on the spectrum 502 00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:46,940 analyzer coming from sources like our cell phones or telephone lines or even camera 503 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:47,940 equipment. 504 00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:53,540 So to see the spiking energy fluctuations continue even after we shut the test coil off, 505 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:57,940 well, that's evidence that a much bigger energy source was being detected. 506 00:26:57,940 --> 00:26:58,940 Oh, crap. 507 00:26:58,940 --> 00:26:59,940 Look at that. 508 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:06,140 A few weeks ago, we witnessed something very similar right after we conducted an experiment 509 00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:07,140 at Homestead 2. 510 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:12,140 Somehow, I mean, we're actively being electronically attacked right there. 511 00:27:12,140 --> 00:27:15,240 That is a transmitter somewhere doing that. 512 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,140 And then suddenly, both Thomas and I started to feel sick. 513 00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:22,140 That was freaking weird. 514 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:25,140 That's how dizzy I was, then. 515 00:27:25,140 --> 00:27:27,140 Guys, I'm leaving the ranch. 516 00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:28,140 I'm getting a bad headache. 517 00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:29,140 Are you serious? 518 00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:31,140 I'm dead serious. 519 00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:36,140 So these sudden energy spikes that were being detected by the spectrum analyzer may very 520 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:41,140 well have been evidence that we were stimulating a response from something on the ranch. 521 00:27:41,140 --> 00:27:45,140 But what that was, we had no idea, at least not at that point. 522 00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:48,140 There's no way that coil can produce that frequency. 523 00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:50,140 It's too high. 524 00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:57,140 The ground is somehow acting like a transformer turning low frequency, lower power, into higher 525 00:27:57,140 --> 00:27:58,140 frequency, higher power. 526 00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:01,140 How is that possible? 527 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:05,140 It means there's a transformer under the ground or something. 528 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:11,640 We typically see a very strong resonant frequency of the coil and a couple of harmonics right 529 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,640 near that. 530 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,140 But one thing that was really odd is we saw a much higher frequency up in the megahertz 531 00:28:18,140 --> 00:28:22,140 range far beyond what the coil normally produces. 532 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:27,140 You know, I can't explain this signal, but it did seem to be affected or provoked or 533 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,140 started by the coil. 534 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:30,640 But here's the other thing. 535 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,140 I can't keep that quantum random number generator program up. 536 00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:38,140 It continues to shut down on its own. 537 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:40,140 So I don't know what's happening here. 538 00:28:40,140 --> 00:28:44,140 This is unexpected because I've had no trouble whatsoever with this device. 539 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:49,140 But something's turning this off and it doesn't correlate necessarily with turning this Tesla 540 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:50,140 coil on. 541 00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:53,140 And you can't even get the software to come up and tell you what the... 542 00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:54,140 Oh, it'll come up. 543 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:55,140 It'll come up for a short time. 544 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:58,140 But then what happens is this entire interface just shuts down. 545 00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:01,140 I have tested that device to fly in space. 546 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,140 Okay. 547 00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:06,140 Because I am about to fly four of them on the space station in December. 548 00:29:06,140 --> 00:29:07,140 And... 549 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:09,140 So that should lay that concern to the rest of the way. 550 00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:11,140 That shouldn't be that. 551 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:14,140 Some of our instruments have clearly been interfered with. 552 00:29:14,140 --> 00:29:19,140 And I'm asking myself whether this is an indication of stimulus and response. 553 00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:23,140 Are we dealing with something that is technological? 554 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:27,140 Is there an other on the other side of the interaction? 555 00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,140 We all want to know the answer to this. 556 00:29:29,140 --> 00:29:34,140 I can't help wondering whether either we've done something to tweak this device, in other words, 557 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:36,140 to damage it somehow. 558 00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:37,140 Right. 559 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:42,140 Whether something more interesting is shutting down and preventing me from being able to 560 00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:43,140 use the device. 561 00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:45,140 I was thinking about that too. 562 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:49,140 I mean, we're so focused on these instruments, something may be happening around us. 563 00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:52,140 These seem to be triggered by outside sources. 564 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:53,140 Yeah. 565 00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:58,140 Could Eric be correct that something made our equipment just shut down and no longer be 566 00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:01,140 able to detect the strange energy signal? 567 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:04,140 I approach these experiments from a scientific perspective. 568 00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:10,140 If he's right, then something with an intelligence would have to be the culprit. 569 00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:14,140 So we did have two anomalies that we can't really explain. 570 00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:19,140 And that's the fact that the signal from the Tesla coil was amplified and transformed into 571 00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:21,140 a higher frequency. 572 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:23,140 That I can't explain. 573 00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:28,140 And that quantum random number generator quit working with this computer for some reason. 574 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:33,140 When it comes to skin walker ranch, there seems to be an intelligence to it. 575 00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:39,140 Which I've always said you can't make this ranch tap dance on command. 576 00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:45,140 And our hope is by doing these projects that we can stimulate it, that we can maybe communicate 577 00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:46,140 with it. 578 00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:47,140 Maybe communicate with it. 579 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:52,140 But if there is an intelligence, it seems like there's something about this triangle 580 00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:54,140 it does not want messed with. 581 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:58,140 I don't know what it is, but it seems like when we're doing big experiments on the ranch, 582 00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:04,140 things happen to maybe thwart our efforts or at least throw a wrench in things. 583 00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:09,140 Without fail, we're going to have some equipment that malfunctions or things that are trying 584 00:31:09,140 --> 00:31:11,140 to stop us from what we're doing. 585 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:15,140 Well, I mean, you've never seen anything like that with the big Tesla coil. 586 00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:16,140 No, nothing. 587 00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:17,140 I can't explain that. 588 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:23,140 It doesn't surprise me at all after being out here doing research on the ranch for two summers now. 589 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:25,140 I don't know what else we could do here. 590 00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:27,140 I'd like to go back and look at the data. 591 00:31:27,140 --> 00:31:29,140 So let's start packing up guys, right? 592 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:31,140 Wow, look at that. 593 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:32,140 Yeah. 594 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:33,140 That's a real fly on. 595 00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:34,140 Yeah, look at that. 596 00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:35,140 Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. 597 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:36,140 What is that? 598 00:31:36,140 --> 00:31:37,140 Right there. 599 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:38,140 Yes. 600 00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:39,140 You see that? 601 00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:40,140 Yes, yes. 602 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,140 Look, it's in the clouds, whatever it is. 603 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:42,140 Look how fast it's going. 604 00:31:42,140 --> 00:31:44,140 And then look, it's just streaked off right off the bat. 605 00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:45,140 It's crazy. 606 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:46,140 Hey, guys. 607 00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:47,140 Hey. 608 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,140 Did y'all find that footage? 609 00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:50,140 It takes you about. 610 00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:55,140 You know, I'm looking at the whole time interval and I'm watching that storm system move in. 611 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:59,140 And, you know, looking for, you know, you were talking about there being some lightning strikes. 612 00:31:59,140 --> 00:32:01,140 Yeah, I was watching on my phone. 613 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:02,140 Yeah. 614 00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:04,140 And looking due west to pretty much that view right there. 615 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:05,140 Okay. 616 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:10,140 The day after our Tesla coil experiment, I headed home for the weekend to think about what we 617 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:13,140 had experienced and really just decompress a little. 618 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:17,140 But while Eric and the team kept analyzing all the data we collected from the ranch, 619 00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:21,140 I was also remotely monitoring the security cameras mounted on my trailer that faced the 620 00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:22,140 triangle area. 621 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:27,140 Now, if we've learned anything out here, it's that phenomena don't always happen immediately 622 00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:28,140 when we experiment. 623 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:31,140 So do you have the sense that it would be in the field of view? 624 00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:33,140 It should be right there. 625 00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:34,140 Yeah. 626 00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:38,140 I wasn't sure if there was a correlation, but I saw that a really volatile lightning storm 627 00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:39,140 happened. 628 00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:44,140 So when I got back, I wanted to confirm with Eric what his surveillance system was. 629 00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:49,140 Just in case anything else may have been captured as well. 630 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,140 Let's go forward to the point in time when you were seeing all that. 631 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,140 You had 231, right? 632 00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:54,140 That lightning. 633 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:55,140 Let me... 634 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:59,140 So here we are at 230. 635 00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:00,140 Okay. 636 00:33:00,140 --> 00:33:03,140 By this time, there should be lightning everywhere. 637 00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:04,140 Right. 638 00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:06,140 So I'm playing through at normal speed. 639 00:33:06,140 --> 00:33:08,140 So we're not skipping any frames. 640 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:09,140 We shouldn't be in this. 641 00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:11,140 Well, that doesn't make any sense. 642 00:33:11,140 --> 00:33:14,140 That doesn't look at all like what I was watching. 643 00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:17,140 Now, I mean, I was watching a thunderstorm. 644 00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:21,140 This cloud was constantly just one big flicker. 645 00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:22,140 Okay. 646 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:25,140 That makes no sense. 647 00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:31,140 We look at the exact same time that I texted Eric and there's not a lightning strike or 648 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:35,140 a flash of lightning anything in the actual data. 649 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:36,140 And I can't understand it. 650 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:38,140 I was watching it on my phone. 651 00:33:38,140 --> 00:33:43,140 Now, Eric's camera is up on the mesa a couple hundred yards from my trailer, but it's the 652 00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:46,140 exact same perspective. 653 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:50,140 Can you pull up my video from my camera? 654 00:33:50,140 --> 00:33:52,140 I can, Nellie. 655 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:54,140 I don't understand that. 656 00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:57,140 I think it might be this one. 657 00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:59,140 You can tell me if this is a match. 658 00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:00,140 That's it. 659 00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:01,140 That's the view. 660 00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:02,140 Okay. 661 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:03,140 Okay. 662 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:05,140 Wow, look at that. 663 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:06,140 Yeah. 664 00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:07,140 So this is what I was seeing. 665 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:09,140 I see dust devils all through here. 666 00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:10,140 It was crazy. 667 00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:11,140 That's really violent. 668 00:34:11,140 --> 00:34:12,140 Yeah, look at that. 669 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:13,140 Okay. 670 00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:16,140 I'm going to sneak up on that two-thirty time frame. 671 00:34:16,140 --> 00:34:18,140 There we go. 672 00:34:18,140 --> 00:34:19,140 Okay. 673 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:22,140 Do you see anything that resembles what you saw? 674 00:34:22,140 --> 00:34:25,140 Nothing because this guy was flickering like crazy. 675 00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:27,140 Well, I don't see any lightning. 676 00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:28,140 Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. 677 00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:29,140 What is that? 678 00:34:29,140 --> 00:34:30,140 Right there. 679 00:34:30,140 --> 00:34:31,140 Yes, you see in that? 680 00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:32,140 Yes. 681 00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:33,140 Yeah. 682 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:34,140 Back up. 683 00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:35,140 Back up a couple of frames. 684 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:36,140 All right. 685 00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:37,140 You got to see, look, right here. 686 00:34:37,140 --> 00:34:38,140 You see this? 687 00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:39,140 What is that? 688 00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:42,140 I don't know yet. 689 00:34:42,140 --> 00:34:45,140 It appears there. 690 00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:47,140 And then right there, right above the mesa. 691 00:34:47,140 --> 00:34:48,140 Right above the mesa. 692 00:34:48,140 --> 00:34:49,140 All right. 693 00:34:49,140 --> 00:34:51,140 So back it up before it and play through it. 694 00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:52,140 All right. 695 00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:57,140 Okay, so we're at 13-42-40. 696 00:34:57,140 --> 00:34:58,140 There it is. 697 00:34:58,140 --> 00:35:01,140 It comes in, it's there, and then it's gone. 698 00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:05,140 You got to see that? 699 00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:11,140 You don't generally see bugs flying around when it's blowing hard. 700 00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:16,140 So let's look at another camera angle and see if we can see if that was a bug or not. 701 00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:17,140 Sure. 702 00:35:17,140 --> 00:35:18,140 Okay. 703 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:21,140 I'm at about the same time code here. 704 00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:25,140 Oh, look, look, right here, right here, look. 705 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:26,140 See this? 706 00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:30,140 Look, it's in the clouds, whatever it is. 707 00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:31,140 Okay. 708 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:36,140 All right, then it's just diving. 709 00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:39,140 Look how it's just diving straight down in it. 710 00:35:39,140 --> 00:35:40,140 And it's like hovering. 711 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:41,140 That's weird. 712 00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:45,140 Yeah, you know what's interesting, though, is right there where it's hovering is about 713 00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:48,140 the perspective where it looked like it disappeared above the mesa. 714 00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:50,140 Where we saw it on the other camera, right? 715 00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:52,140 Look, it's got a wake behind it. 716 00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:53,140 It's going really fast. 717 00:35:53,140 --> 00:35:55,140 Look, it just straight off. 718 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:58,140 What the hell is that? 719 00:35:58,140 --> 00:35:59,140 That is crazy. 720 00:35:59,140 --> 00:36:01,140 I got to see this again. 721 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:03,140 Yeah, go all the way back. 722 00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:06,140 This is odd. 723 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:08,140 All right, now look how fast it comes down. 724 00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:09,140 Now watch right here. 725 00:36:09,140 --> 00:36:11,140 It's like it goes behind and through this cloud. 726 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:12,140 You see that? 727 00:36:12,140 --> 00:36:13,140 Yep. 728 00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:14,140 You can see a trail behind it. 729 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:15,140 Look, it's leaving a trail. 730 00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:16,140 A trail, right? 731 00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:18,140 I can't understand that. 732 00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:21,140 Look how fast it's going. 733 00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:22,140 That's amazing. 734 00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:27,140 And then it goes straight down and then it stops right there. 735 00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:28,140 Look at that. 736 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:31,140 And that's about how long it was stopped in that position, 737 00:36:31,140 --> 00:36:33,140 in the other camera. 738 00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:35,140 And then it just, boom, look at that. 739 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:36,140 Wow. 740 00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:37,140 Gone. 741 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:38,140 That's something. 742 00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:41,140 It really does look like it's moving fast as it exits. 743 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:42,140 Yes. 744 00:36:42,140 --> 00:36:46,140 I've never seen a quadcopter, a hexcopter, anything like that do that. 745 00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:50,140 I've never seen fixed wing drones do something like that. 746 00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:52,140 And airplanes don't do that. 747 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:59,140 Coincidence to this is really odd because you were alerted to what you thought was lightning 748 00:36:59,140 --> 00:37:00,140 going on. 749 00:37:00,140 --> 00:37:01,140 Right. 750 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:05,140 And we wouldn't have even been looking at this footage had you not made a big deal out 751 00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:06,140 of lightning. 752 00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:08,140 The lightning disappears, but then all of a sudden we see this thing. 753 00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:10,140 That's a weird, totally strange coincidence. 754 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:12,140 That just seems like a huge coincidence. 755 00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:13,140 Oh yeah. 756 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:14,140 Yeah. 757 00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:19,260 The fact that we picked this thing up on multiple cameras from multiple systems looking from 758 00:37:19,260 --> 00:37:24,260 different angles and saw this thing, you know, it takes away a lot of the mundane explanation, 759 00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:28,260 that it was a bug on the lens or that it was a bird or something like that. 760 00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:31,260 I don't know what this was, but it's nothing I have an explanation for. 761 00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:35,260 That's clearly, I mean, call it a UFO if you want to, because I don't know what it is. 762 00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:37,260 It's flying and it's unidentified. 763 00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:38,260 Right. 764 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:42,260 Maybe from the two cameras we can figure out how far away it is and how fast it's moving. 765 00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,260 That'll tell us something too. 766 00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:44,260 So I'll go play around with that too. 767 00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:45,260 Yeah, I like that. 768 00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:52,260 What I find interesting about this event is that it correlates with the experiment with the Tesla coil out at the triangle area. 769 00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:59,260 So there's room to speculate that there might be some relationship between this black object that shows up in our footage 770 00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:02,260 and whatever was taking place at night. 771 00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:08,260 So how do you feel about taking this file to share with Brandon and kind of get his eyes on this? 772 00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:09,260 Yeah, absolutely. 773 00:38:09,260 --> 00:38:10,260 Do it. 774 00:38:10,260 --> 00:38:11,260 Let's know when you get this thing done. 775 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:12,260 All right. 776 00:38:12,260 --> 00:38:13,260 Thanks guys. 777 00:38:13,260 --> 00:38:14,260 Great. 778 00:38:14,260 --> 00:38:15,260 That's good stuff. 779 00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:28,260 Hey, Brandon. 780 00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:29,260 How's it going, Brandon? 781 00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:30,260 Hey, greetings gentlemen. 782 00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:31,260 How are you? 783 00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:38,260 So have you received and reviewed the footage of the dark object in the sky over the mesa during the recent storm? 784 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:39,260 Yeah. 785 00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:44,260 I just reviewed it and I'm anxious to get your perspective on it. 786 00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:47,260 It's very intriguing. 787 00:38:47,260 --> 00:38:55,260 It's definitely maneuvering in a way that you typically don't see with any craft, drone or anything that I would call conventional. 788 00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:56,260 Right. 789 00:38:56,260 --> 00:39:03,260 When it does that one little, looks like an aerodynamic maneuver, but then it stops and hovers and then just darts off behind the mesa to the north. 790 00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:07,260 It's probably going a thousand mile an hour at that point. 791 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:08,260 Yeah. 792 00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:15,260 The speed and the trajectory and just the erratic behavior of the object just kind of blew me away. 793 00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:16,260 Yeah, I agree. 794 00:39:16,260 --> 00:39:24,260 The only other thing I would say about it that's interesting to me also is that the object was over the triangle area. 795 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:25,260 Wow. 796 00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:31,260 Perhaps this object had some kind of causal relationship with the exercise involving the Tesla coil. 797 00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:32,260 What do you say? 798 00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:33,260 Yeah. 799 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:35,260 Well, there appears to be a connection. 800 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:36,260 Right. 801 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:45,260 To see in broad daylight once again, a strange object that is not only moving at speeds, but also trajectories, the DeVile description, 802 00:39:45,260 --> 00:40:01,260 following that Tesla experiment, it just leaves you not only baffled, but also I think further emboldened to understand what is really going on above and below Skinwalker Ranch. 803 00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:14,260 Of course, the question I have is anything showing up on the avionics transponder or any of the other tracking services that are monitoring all the commercial and private air traffic in the area? 804 00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:17,260 Well, that's really the right question and the answer is no. 805 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:24,260 There are no self identifying aircraft or at least no transponding aircraft in the space at the time of that event. 806 00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:25,260 That is bizarre. 807 00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:34,260 Well, given the compelling evidence that you guys have collected, I think we more than ever have an imperative to get to the bottom of it. 808 00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:35,260 Agreed. 809 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:41,260 This happened above the triangle and by the way, we've taken weather balloons up there. 810 00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:43,260 We lost the balloon right there. 811 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:50,260 I think we just need to come up with a plan to get up there, look at it closer and let you know what we come up with. 812 00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:51,260 I agree. 813 00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:52,260 I agree. 814 00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:56,260 If there's something, we got to figure out a way to understand what these things are. 815 00:40:56,260 --> 00:40:58,260 Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. 816 00:40:58,260 --> 00:41:09,260 The fact that these events continue to occur repeatedly over the airspace of this 512 acre ranch, I think is beyond coincidence. 817 00:41:09,260 --> 00:41:10,260 Right. 818 00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:21,260 I think one thing that we've been able to verify over the course of the last few years and especially with this team is that whatever we're observing, it is unique to this area and unique to Skinwalker Ranch. 819 00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:30,260 I think getting to the bottom of why and the origin and the agenda associated with this phenomena is going to be job number one moving forward. 820 00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:31,260 Agreed. 821 00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:32,260 Agreed. 822 00:41:32,260 --> 00:41:33,260 Thanks for joining us, Brandon. 823 00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:34,260 Thanks for your time. 824 00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:35,260 Thank you so much. 825 00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:36,260 We'll stay in touch. 826 00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:49,260 As our investigation moves forward, the one thing in my mind that still is not resolved is there does seem to be some type of intelligence aspect to this. 827 00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:56,260 So many times the phenomena that takes place is so perfectly correlated with the activities that are going on. 828 00:41:56,260 --> 00:42:02,260 It makes me wonder what might we possibly see up above the ranch. 829 00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:11,260 The scientific method says if there's something unknown or you don't understand it, you design experiments to study it and you report the results. 830 00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:14,260 We don't know what's happening here. 831 00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:19,260 Maybe we can figure out what it is, why it's here and where it came from. 832 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:23,260 Be able to communicate with it if it wants to be communicated with. 833 00:42:23,260 --> 00:42:37,260 We truly have a unique opportunity to be able to prove the reality of strange phenomena and to be able to prove the reality that we're not alone in the universe. 834 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:55,260 We've got a bunch of rockets launched right above the Triangle area where last year we saw UFO appear in the sky. 835 00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:56,260 There it goes. 836 00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:57,260 We have it on. 837 00:42:57,260 --> 00:42:59,260 Oh man, look at that. 838 00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:00,260 What is that? 839 00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:01,260 What's going on? 840 00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:02,260 Something beeping over there. 841 00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:03,260 Oh, buckets. 842 00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:04,260 Hey, you just feel that. 843 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:05,260 We got something. 844 00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:08,260 We just saw the same UFO that we saw last year. 845 00:43:08,260 --> 00:43:09,260 There, look at that. 846 00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:10,260 Oh wow. 847 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:13,260 What the hell would be dropping down toward the rocket? 848 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:14,260 That is crazy.